During the viral marketing campaign we were given this image of The Joker being chauffeured:
Chris has pointed out that this was not in the movie – maybe there are some more Joker scenes waiting for us on the DVD release, or a director’s cut? We can only hope. Where do you thing this would have fit into the movie?
My prediction is prior to the Harvey Dent fundraiser at the Penthouse scene.
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There is also the scene where the Batmobile is going out of the Batcave.
Well, i have read that Chris Nolans first editing Pass at the movie was around 3 hours long,but the studio said it needed to be shorter. So possibly a Directors cut,or deleted scenes ?
there were a few scenes,or performances from either pictures or the trailer that i didnt see in the film as well.
the clip of the Joker Saying “you’ll see,i’ll show ya” While in the interrogation room wasnt in the film either.
All the stuff with Batman standing on cop cars. That was really damn cool and really damn not in the movie.
This looks like the Joker’s on his way to the Harvey Dent party at Bruces place. I recognize the mask of the driver. And The Joker did say ” you’ll see, I’ll show ya” but the camera didnt look at him when he said it.
My guess is when Joker is going to Bruces Penthouse, too.
So there’s obviously been a cut. Though, I know I wouldn’t have minded at all if those had been in it.
Here’s the round up:
-No joker Chauffeur scene
-No Batman on top of cop cars
-No Batmobile skidding out of Batcave
It’s odd; those were like, the first images released.
Anything else missing??
I’m pretty sure the sceen where The Joker fires the bazooka was not the same as trailer.
The slow clap with the joker in the jail cell. They just have a quick shot of him clapping very enthusiastically for Gordon, but not the slow pan up and long slow clap from the trailer.
Maybe they left some Joker Footage out on purpose to be used in the 3rd Movie?
also the scene from the dominos trailer were the joker stands in front of the burning notes saying ‘this city is mine now’ and the walk down the street from the second trailer were he flicks out his blade,,
Also the snippet of Harvey Dent entering the press conference, straightening his tie and stepping on stage. The movie shows him already on stage at the press conference.
The Joker does say “this town is mine now”. It just has a different angle than the trailer. These are just trailers, it doesnt mean its
going to be the movie exactly as it looks in them.
To be fair, a lot of viral marketing material is not used in the final cut. Remember the CLOVERFIELD viral advertisements? There were dozens of photos of the monster underwater and attacking boats in the ocean, but there was no mention in the film, nor were they included in the deleted scenes. Just additional stuff to make you want to see it.
On the side note, I’m glad they kept the scene with Joker in the body bag. I though they might remove that part, just because it would be kind of touchy…
yeah there is a bit in the trailer where he goes hello comishiner* when he is lying against the wall
no, he doesn’t say it while next to the wall. that’s just good editing for the trailer. he says the ‘evening commissioner’ line when gordon first enters the interrogation room in the dark. he does the sucking in of the lips thing from the trailer when he’s sitting on the floor and asks the guy about his friends and such.
they obviously took a bunch of takes of certain scenes, which is why some of the joker’s lines sound different or use different words in the various trailers and the finished film.
IT’S BEFORE THE JOKER CRASHES PARTY
Like dmmp_48 said, these scene could have been edited out and used in a third film in some way. Dialogue scenes could be edited out for use of the dialogue, and scenes like that image of him in the back seat of the car, it could be used anywhere maybe…and could be used as a sort of…glimse in the third film.
If that’s true…that would mean that Heath Ledger’s final performance on screen wouldn’t be for another three – four years or so.
A fox news clip that aired a while ago showed a ‘behined the scenes’ shot of the Health, in make-up, practicing his moves to enter a similar looking car. Obviously we have some cut-scenes here. The clip is on you-tube.
Ya know, I think everyone needs to realize that not every scene makes it into a movie.
Spindles, could you give us a link?
Also, if you guys haven’t noticed yet, the Joker has recently defaced all of the posters and wallpapers on the movie’s website. http://thedarkknight.warnerbros.com/
Supposedly, Chris Nolan’s first cut of “The Dark Knight” ran about 3 hours – to get either that extended cut or the full monty of deleted scenes in a future home video release would be awesome. Are you listening, Warner Brothers?
I have a question. We’re told that Two-Face “killed 5 people, 2 of them cops.” I still only count 3. The guy who picked him up, Rameriz got to live, and then the Maroni and his driver. Who were the other 2? That seemed like stuff was cut to me.
“things we lose have a way of coming back to us in the end. If not always in the way we expect.”
-Talia al Ghul
with that joker picture, do you think that may of been the bus driver? because you never see him get killed, but you know he dies.
The bus driver? Not to be a dick, but did U actually see this movie, Rancid!? No, I agree with those who say this is a cut scene from what may have came right before Bruce Wayne’s party for Dent.
It would only be fitting after the tragic and sudden loss of such a great artist for Nolan and WB to provide the World with EVERYTHING that has been captured on film of Heath’s brilliant performance (used or cut) on the TDK DVD come this Fall. (oh, and just in case theyre really paying attention to this: ‘optional production commentary’ on the DVD is very deserved for a film of this caliber)
With regards to the “you’ll see, I’ll show you”, he only said “I’ll show you”. One scene that was left out was when he tosses his knife from one hand to the other. If you watch TV spot 6 when he has Dawes hanging out the window he says “ooo, very poor choice of words and laughs”, in the final cut “ooo” was edited out completely and his laugh was cut off. With the exception of the laugh from the teaser trailer, many of his sadistic laughs were left out.
p.s. Sorry for lack of proper sentence structure : )
One more thing:
We should petition for a directors cut. Deleted scenes are cool but I want it all. This movie was too short with not enough Two-Face or Joker. I want the whole enchilada.
LOL, forgot to add something (yes, I’m a retard), I want the takes used in the trailers. Heath sounded much more serious and sadistic in those takes; very intense. The final cut was very good too, but something about the delivery used in the trailers just sent chills down my spine.
This is probably takes place immediately after the Dent Fund Raiser. After Batman and Rachel fall out of the building they never show what happens to The Joker or his gang. It would take away from The Joker crashing the party if they were to show him immediately prior, which is why I believe it happened after, not before the Fund Raiser. It could have happened later in the movie as well.
hmmmm, good point “Joker”(look above). But maybe thats why Nolan ended up cutting it. ha, im just saying….u kno?
Well, in light of all this info, i will say a few things:
I would very much like to see a complete package as far as the dvd is concerned. The Batman Begins Deluxe Set was, i suppose, as complete as they wanted it to be at the time, and i dont want to be an selfish tool BUT- i was kind of pissed that they didnt at least throw in the teaser trailer. Oof. That sent chills down the spine 4 years ago and still does. As far as commentary goes, i dont believe Nolan has done a commentary for any of his previous movies, i could be wrong. If this package is gonna be delivered, it should be as complete as, i dare say, most of us should want it:
*commentary (from SOMEBODY)
*Extended version or Directors cut
*All trailers, including the 4 or 5 not theatrically shown
*All 16 TV spots
*The same type of content like on the Batman Begins Deluxe Edition
*And most likely a chunk if not all of the viral stuff from the year long marketing campaign. And that means ALL the gotham tonite specials, phone calls, fan stuff, etc. I also want that on there to, because i was there in NYC promoting harvey dent campaign, and want to see my stupid fat face screaming “HARVEY DENT FOR D.A.!!” Yeah. Im selfish. Sue me. I guess we gotta wait…
well i also think that it is from the scene before the joker crashes the harvey dent party…and christopher nolan has done a directors commentary on “memento” and i think thats the only one as far as i know….and on scenes deleted i noticed(i could be wrong) that the scene where he says “your just a freak…like me!!!” before the building blows up in the first theatrical trailer where u see him smiling inbetween buildings wasnt in there…
i cant recall a film ever using so many alternate scenes and shots in their promotional/ad campaigns…..interesting.
uhh. i seem to recall in the trailer where at Dent’s fundraising party the joker walks to Rachel, n said “I’ll settle for his loved ones”, the walking part is there. but the line didnt came out at the movie. oh god, i so hope the DVD got much much more stuff
I think the chauffer scene comes after the dent fundraiser. That was a big plot hole in the movie. Batman lands on a taxi with Rachel and the Joker is still up in the penthouse with armed goons, but it just cuts to the next morning with Gordon and Dent.
Also, most of the comments here mention scenes that are in the movie just filmed or edited differently.
i second that Grant. it was a tad bizarre… anyway, one scene that stood out to me in particular was at Dent’s fund raiser party, when the Joker says “…A little fight in ya… I like that” he doesn’t lick his lips in the movie like he does in the trailer. :/
seeming how we’re throwing out ideas for the DVD, i want an *unrated* directors cut. i remember reading somewhere that there was a lot of stuff cut to get a PG-13 rating (i imagine most of it had to do with the Joker), and i reaaaalllyyy wanna see the stuff that was cut… Remember when(****SPOILERS****) the Joker is delivered to Gamble in a body bag, and after his chilling story about his father, he somehow kills Gamble? i want to see what the Joker did to him with that knife… instead of the camera cutting away to the guards face just twisting in horror. for me, that editing made me snap back to reality and realize i was just watching a movie, and in my head i thought “wtf was that. lame”… but whatever.
It would be a financial disgrace to WarnerBros if they didn’t make a sequel. I think they should put Catwoman in it. They really should add these deleted scenes and outtakes in the dvd. Why hads this been the most recent post for days??? Updates??
I agree with you two (Alex & Grant). So many alternate scenes like in the second trailer they show a close-up of Dent raising his hand up when another shot if fired. To Anonymous, I noticed they didn’t use his laughs either and I agree with a petition for a director’s cut. The delivery in those trailers were on a whole different level then what ended up on the final cut (The Joker’s monologue is so much darker than it actually is in the movie. Even his monologue about the “civilized people”), but they were still good nonetheless. Another alternate scene happens in the interrogation scene. If you watch TV spot 8 when he says “I know the truth”, It looks much more dramatic there than in the final cut.
I know that in movies they use alternate takes but we paid good money to see this movie and I think we deserve to see this movie in all of its uncensored/uncut glory.
“Batgirl”, I understood everything in ur blog except the last question: what do u mean, “why has this been the most recent post for days???” Are u implying that this blog about the edited/alternated scenes have been the only thing up for days on this wonderful blog and that u are just completely burnt out on reg weed and on this subject….SOO now, damn it, u and your people deserve a more recent post!!!????
Ah, just wanna make sure im getting u right;)
-Btw, are u a very cute and possibly sexy “Batgirl”?
“Bob(by) Kane JR.” –
Thanks for the insult(s).Oh, yeah. No hard feelings at all. I mean, I could feel your manners and charm oozing through my computer screen. What I WAS implying was that before I wrote that, the comment posts were slowing down. I was just a little surprised that such a subject as the un-seen scenes (pun intended) would wear out so fast. I am ever so grateful to be surrounded by a community of fans such as myself, and the person who runs this blog does a fantastic job. He probably already works hard enough, especially with news dying down, and I would never try to put any pressure on him.
So, I hope you’re “getting me right” now.
Now that that’s out of my system…
I’m told I’m very cute and a 8.7 on the Sexy Scale.
i dont kno if anyone has the hook up, u kno with knowing the “right people” involving this film but i believe what ever doesn’t kill u, simply…..oops sorry about that…..(starting to do that all the time now. No i meant, i believe if enough of us or all of us petition and write Warner Brothers and or Nolan and Co. to provide us fans with all the exclusive footage we’ve been discussing about(oh and more) come this fall on the TDK DVD release, that are wishes…..
…..will be granted. yeahhhhhh!!!!
Hi again, all. I was just thinking…what happened after Batman and Rachel landed on a taxi after falling several stories? He wouldn’t just leave Joker in his penthouse with armed henchmen, right? Maybe since He couldn’t find Dent and he had just thrown his loved one from a window, he just left. With style I’m sure. Any thoughts??
Bill Finger– That’s a great idea!!! We would probably need a LOT of signatures, though. Should we pass the petition through by email or what?
haa, no, i wouldnt dare put down The Batgirl. Ya, maybe a’lil flirting through some harmless sarcasm, but never burn the bridge of someone that may save ur ass someday when u need it the most(especially when she’s just that sexy;)
so now that I got that out of the way and also out of my system….uh 8.7 sounds pretty good.
so hey u! whats up?
What’s up yourself? I’m fine, but maybe we should take this off the chauffeur board. I feel that perhaps some people didn’t come here to see out conversation.
It appears some of my message got cut off earlier but basically I agree with you Anonymous about the petition. I as well would like the whole “enchilada” as you put it. I want an Uncut/Extended Platinum edition (just had to throw the “platinum” part in there so you all know I’m serious). This movie truly was too short.
It appears some of my message got cut off earlier but basically I agree with you Anonymous about the petition. I as well would like the whole “enchilada” as you put it. I want an Uncut/Extended Platinum edition (just had to throw the “platinum” part in there so you all know I’m serious). This movie truly was too short
D’oh. Sorry for the double post. The site was misbehaving.
Breyfogle- Yeah, I hear ya. But still, I want all of it, and I’m sure a lot of people feel the same way.
I think we should treat it as a viral marketing promotional photo: http://www.wizarduniverse.com/120307dk01.html
click on the same picture in the wizard universe site, although it was somehow diminished or compressed, there is in fact exif of the picture: http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/wizarduniverse_2011_754005788
Okay. we’re kind of pissed because most of the scenes were cut out from the movie and I’m kind of pissed off. But there 2 probable reasons why those scenes were cut out.
1)They didn’t want the dark knight to be too long, so the probably cut those scenes out.
2)The movie was going out to imax and lets not forget about i am legend and beowulf. Those movies were most likely to be rated r but imax can’t allow r rated films in their movie theatres. So they cut most of the scenes out of the film and put them on dvd. The same with the dark knight. They can’t allow that to be rated r. So cut the scenes out and rate it pg13.
But don’t worry. They most likely will have an unrated dvd or director’s cut maybe before december and everything will be good.
That’s a logical theory. I hope you’re right.
What about this?
“Michael Caine said:
You think Jack Nicholson in the role and you can’t imagine anyone topping him. Heath’s just as good in another direction. He’s terrifying. The first time I saw him, we were rehearsing. He comes up in the elevator to me in Batman’s flat and raids the place. And I hadn’t seen him, I’d never met him and he comes out screaming and it’s like ‘wow’. I completely forgot my lines. Scary. It will frighten the life out of people.”
I cant remember him raiding batmans flat. Unless its when he crashes the party.
Michael Caine is talking about Joker crashing the party.
I’m currently reading the movie’s novelization, and on page 169 there’s a scene that takes place after Bruce’s party and reads as follows. It could be what was meant to take place in the original chauffeur picture:
‘In the backseat of the SUV, the Joker was alternately gasping for breath and laughing. He touched a streamlet of blood running down his makeup-smeared chin with a forefinger, licked it, and said, “Yummy! Did you see that? Did you love it a great big bunch? I tossed the lovely bird into the wind and out Bats went. I wonder…would the Bats take a header for everyone? Or is that pretty little birdie someone special? Either way, we know one thing for sure now…Batman will always try to save the innocent. And that will be his downfall!
“What about Dent?” the driver asked.
“Oh, I’m a man of my word,” the Joker said, smiling.
What is the title? I’d like to have a look at that as well. That does sound like the chauffeur scene to me.
From the screenplay:
“INT. CAR — Continuous
The Joker looks back as his car SPEEDS away. He’s breathing hard, EXHILARATED. He touches the blood running down his sweaty makeup. SMACKS the back of the driver’s seat-
DRIVER
What do we do about Dent?
THE JOKER
I’m a man of my word.”
That’s it. The novelization dialogue was obviously written by a comic writer. Very expository and goofy.
So “The Joker” was right; It does take place after the Dent Fundraiser. Good job “The Joker”.
A podcast interview with screenwriter Jonathan Nolan states that not a lot was cut so there might not be a lot for a dvd. Basically, there might be some extended scenes or a re-cut of scenes, but don’t expect much.
Link opens in iTunes…
http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?i=29773945&id=77837603
I also didn’t see Bruce and Harvey toasting glasses.
im curious: at the end of the bank robbery, the joker sticks what appears to be a grenade in the bank manager’s mouth until u witness green smoke released due to the yanked pin. Cut/edited scene or not, were they implying that the gas was a prank instead of a real grenade or was it a dangerous, possibly disfiguring joker gas? Ive wondered that for several months since seeing the first 6min months ago hoping when seen in full they would elaborate. HELLUVA A FILM….still dont kno what that joker gas is!!
I believe the chauffeur scene is when joker is on his way to bruces penthouse to crash the party.
hmm… interesting. they didnt actually show the bank blow up like i had expected from watching the prologue for months on you tube. OH- i wanna see a gag reel or outtakes to, dammit!
how bout the famous poster where batman stood next to the bat sign ablaze in flames on wrecked building? didnt notice that in the movie either..
I say that it is during the montage of the judge, D.A. and the crash of the Wayne party.
This film desperately needs a re-cut, or extended version for DVD… I don’t recall who posted this, but they were right– Warners used too much alternate material in their ad campaign. And frankly, I felt that a lot of the footage was a tad better than what was used… especially the final shot of the film, which is the opening shot in one of the first trailers… The one used in the film, is short, less engaging and frankly I believe the shot is “key-stoning” — an effect when an ultra wide angle lens is used improperly… nonetheless, I think the movie suffered in spots, and the idea that we have alternate footage to look at leaves me, and hopefully all of you puzzled…
One scene that stands out is, after the “Truck Flip” — It was cut so fast, too fast… and they left out that really interesting slow shot, of the Joker walking towards Batman after he fell off his little bike he had… Instead, that whole sequence was cut for time (as it seems) … studio pressure, or shoddy editing? Either way, the film needs to be extended for DVD… I felt the editing ruined “Batman Begins” and “The Prestige” — I felt 3/4 of “The Dark Knight” fixed this problem as they held shots so your brain could actually process them, but then in other spots, was just sloppy…
Q, I agree with you. “Anonymous” suggested a petition and I agree 100% with the guy. I don’t want any of these really great scenes from the trailer left on the cutting room floor. They teased us with these great shots and alternate takes, some of which were much better than the ones actually used, and I want those put back where they belong. Greedy? Yes. But we’re making them rich. I want the best take of this movie possible.
There are no Scenes…just shots.
You guys are making something out of nothing. if you have PROOF there’s a cut Scene then show me. All I’m seeing is Batman on police cars (thats when he’s exiting MCU to find Rachel and get to the Batpod) and Joker being driven (that’s after Joker leaves the party when Batman, again, goes after Rachel) these are shots…
Keith- No offense but that would be ridiculous to just take shots and not actually film these scenes. Watch the trailers and you will see scenes that were not included.
Okay I feel like a complete idiot, but I saw the film twice. I saw it opening night at midnight and I saw it again several hours ago. I think I saw an irregularity in the two. The first time I saw it, when the joker was clapping in the jail, it seemed that he was clapping for an extended time and even longer then the cops. The second time I saw it he clapped with them and then the scene cut. It is definitely possible I imagined this or it was actually just in one of the trailers. But, I think that I am actually right about this. Did anyone else notice this change?
I saw the film like six times, and the only thing that changed was lame ass Twilight in the trailers instead of BOLT. Personally the movie is good as is, but some shots would be cool for an extended cut
I was right. This scene does take place after the Dent Fundraiser.
Hey.
Can anyone find me the lines that Joker and Batman are saying while they are both in that jail cell room.
ive been trying to find those quotes all over but cant seem to find them
i believe it is the scene when joker says “you’ll see, ill show ya”
but yeah if anyone can find this for me it would be greatly appreciated.
Sorry to double post but it is also the scene where Joker Says:
“I know what you are. Your just a freak, like me!”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB2Dkgy3gs4&NR=1
here’s a video some dude make about the differences between trailers & tv spots and final cut
also there’s a picture of that fake batman dead body with an knife in his pads , in the movie it was just a clips or something like that
different angel in the scene that batman crushes the scarecrow car
some different dialouge from script and movie
different angel in interrogation scene
and so on
we all know filmmakers shoot a scene so many times in so many angels and then choose the best one in editing . but hry it’s Dark Knight !! it’s Joker and it’s the last heath ledger complete role . we all want to see every shots in the movie . every different angel and every censored scene . in the other hand if they keep those shots for the third one to make a joker ( like brando in superman returns ) i give them the right , but seriously who wants a joker without ledger o with computery ledger ? so dear warner bros , give us what we want , and what we deserve
Agreed “Why So Serious”. I want it all. Warner Bros must give us the goods.
This was addressed a while back, but the joker does say “Evening, commissioner” in the trailer without video, with the dark knight symbol being broken. dear god, its almost here for release! oh jesus.
You guys are idiots. A lot of those scenes were in the movie, they’re just taken in different angles.
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